Should Nick Griffin and David Irving have been invited to speak at the Oxford Union? Everyone who is anyone and a lot of people who are not have offered their opinion on the issue. Even Charon got involved. And a lot of readers of his blog took advantage of the freedom to express their views.
‘Martin’ got the ball rolling by taking time off work to tell us that he agreed with Charon.
Fascinating stuff, Martin. Thanks for letting us know. That’s freedom of speech in action.
‘Tony’ then advised us:
“And this one above; if understood, said 5 yrs ago, shows Might in abuse if he cannot speak freely ad be rebutted cogently.”
I don’t agree with your opinion Tony but I defend your write to say it.
[Tony returned to apologise for his typos but, regrettably, not for the full frontal assault on the English language]
‘Anne’ - a staunch believer in the right to free speech and the right to waste her vote - lamented the fact that “for thirty-four years I have voted for a Party that wants to remain in a European Union that I want out of, a Party that continues to tell me untruths about the Reform Treaty, that wants to be at the “Heart” of Europe, etc”.
34 years! Anne – let go. They are not worth it.
‘Christopher’, taking freedom of speech to a transcendental level, took the time out from his lunch break to tell us: “ my views on the views of Griffin and Irving are irrelevent”.
All ‘Tim’ wanted to say was that he believed that people should be able to say what they wanted to say.
Thought provoking stuff.
‘Mark’ took advantage of the right to free speech to ask “If the Germans had won the war and occupied Gt Britain, would we still be caged? ”
Possibly, Mark, but we can’t know for certain. Controversially, David Irving thinks that we would have been raised in barns or,possibly, ‘free range’.
Tony returned and without any sense of irony offered his opinion on ‘truth’. This time, without the decency of an apology, he wrote –
“All Mr. Irvine has to show is that what he says; corresponds with reality that does NOT vary in accordance with viewpoints or Frege’s senses and references. I doubt he can do that at all, considering the testimony, fixed meaning of words, and substantial recorded facts.”
As before, Tony, I don’t understand a word of what you are saying but I defend your right etc…
‘Anne’ returned lamenting (yet again) .
This time she reminisced about the second world war, regretted the lack of a Churchill, and feared that the country was not ready.
We are ready, Anne. Believe me. Next time we will play 5 in midfield.
Peter thought that all views should be allowed but enigmatically kept his reasons for thinking that to himself.
Then at 7.02 pm ( and again at 7.04pm), the tone of the debate was raised by the appropriately named “Barry Turner” - who – would you know –
‘deals in free speech issues on a DAILY basis (I teach media law)’.
An expert on freedom of speech. This was just what the blog was looking for.
Although his schedule is presumably very busy (dealing with free speech issues on a daily basis) he made time to tell us (twice) that ‘the right to free speech is paradoxically defended by the very fact that we control it.’
Thanks Barry. I am always impressed how experts can spot paradoxes better than the rest of us.
“Ian’ told us that he is ‘white, protestant, straight and working class’ and then expected us to believe that he agrees with Nick Griffin.
Pull the other one, mate.
‘Anne’ returned to lament the fact that the board is not ‘adult’. She then reminisced about the Boer War and Churchill.
Ian returned at 10.19 to argue with Anne and Anne returned at 11.40 to argue with Ian.
But by that time I felt that I had learnt all there was to know about free speech and went to bed.
No comments please – I’ve got work to do (on a daily basis).
Clive C Smith